Karen Wynn Fonstad, the author of the popular Atlas of Middle-earth suggested that Tolkien’s statement in the Silmarillion should be interpreted as an actual travelling distance and not a linear distance (“as the crow flies”). So, the distance in the text is more than twice the distance displayed in the 2nd Silmarillion Map. “But Morgoth, as has before been told, returned to Angband, and built it anew, and above its doors he reared the reeking towers of Thangorodrim and the gates of Morgoth were but one hundred and fifty leagues distant from the bridge of Menegroth far and yet all too near.” However, from Tolkien’s later writing for the Silmarillion we have the following statement: Christopher Tolkien estimated the distance from Menegroth to Angband on the 2nd Silmarillon map as 73 leagues or 218 miles (see History of Middle-earth, Volume 11). 1926-1930 and 2nd Silmarillion Map from the early 1930’s). On the one hand, Tolkien did show us Angband on his earlier maps of Beleriand ( 1st Silmarillion Map from ca. What is the problem here? Why is Angband not displayed on the official map of the Silmarillion? However, a discussion with u/Lothronion and u/EvieGHJ on my previous article ( Where was Utumno?) revealed that there is actually no consensus on Angbands location. There are other Tolkien-themed subreddits out there! Say hello to our friends in the following places:įor quite a long time I have thought that we do know the definite location of Angband. We're looking at starting a wiki for these common ones. Try searching before posting a new thread: odds are we've already covered some of the "classic" questions ("Who is Tom Bombadil?", "What happened to the Blue Wizards?", "Why couldn't the Eagles just take the Ring?" etc). Please make use of r/TolkienBooks and r/TolkienArt for these. Posts/comments centring entirely on promotion will be removed. You can share your content, but in a discussion-based format. Links are allowed, so long as they contribute to the discussion. No posts that are simply links or title-only. (Some more obscure topics we will allow.) There are other spaces on Reddit to discuss the movies, games, fanfiction, etc. This sub is intended primarily for serious posts, although humour in discussion is still welcome.ĭon’t discuss topics that stray too far away from having the centre of attention on Tolkien and his works. Stick to the topic instead of commenting on others. No insults, and no aggressive or passive-aggressive comments. For the full descriptions of the rules, follow this link.Īlways keep in mind that we are all human beings, so treat others how you would like to be treated. Multi-reddit of ALL Tolkien Themed Subreddits!īelow are our general rules.Wondering what books there are to read? See /u/ebneter's great postįull list of All Past Reading Discussions and Other Posts of Note Please see our frequently asked questions. Welcome to r/tolkienfans! This subreddit is a space for the Tolkien nerds of reddit to debate and discuss the whole Tolkien mythos.
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